alterego
03-08 06:27 PM
Very well written. I can tell you through my observations of living in this society for 35 years:
1) People leaving because of long wait is a losing argument. Available information doesn't back it up. We have had severe retrogression since 2005 (h-1b quota cases have finished in matter of days)
2)USA is destination of choice. 9 million people file through greencard lottery for 50,000 slots and the main populated countries aren't even eligible to file (ie., India, China, Pakistan, Canada, etc.)
3) Call it what it is: Employment base immigration is least impacted. It is the only class of immigrants who are allowed to work/live in USA while they wait for greencard. Just about every other class has to wait outside until their number is called. This is number one impediment to EB grievances.
4) Stating that one is paying taxes, etc., is also losing argument. You are comparing yourself to the people who are here unlawful. Paying taxes isn't some virtue, it is the law.
5) Country quotas is fundamental to US Immigration. Getting rid of it for one class; ie employment base without looking at the whole thing is waste of time (ie., lottery, family base, etc.).
Now I don't want to get people upset but let's look at some things that have happened since 2005:
There was considerable debate on immigration.com of how the country quotas work and spillover of visas. Depending on how you read the law you would keep coming up with different conclusions. One way was to look at it as hard cap of 7% across all 140,000 visas that is 10,000 or so and it didn't matter about eb1,eb2, eb3. Any unused visas from ROW in EB1 would not go to india but rather flow down to eb2 row and then eb3 row. That s unused would go vertical instead of horizontal.
In uscis fiscal year 2004 eb3 went unavailable in summer of 2005. Statistics showed that India went well over their 7% limit.
In USCIS fiscal year 2005 we had severe retrogression for India. Visa bulletin states that spillover will be vertical instead of horizontal. Statistics showed that India only received 10,500 visas
Now, fiscal year 2006 . We have slow movement in visa dates; it appears that they are going vertical with spillover. However, in July 2007 they make it current for everyone and India goes over the 7% limit.
Fiscal year 2007 it appears from visa bulletin that they are going to go horizontal instead of vertical. No statistics yet of how much went to India.
Therefore; department of state has changed policy, interpretation without law change. Talk to many lawyers and they will tell you that spillover is supposed to happen vertical instead of horizontal. indian nationals have been benefitted greatly by department of state changing it on their whim. You don't see many people from ROW on these boards bellyaching about this; or contacting senators, or threatening lawsuits do you?
This is something to think about? As people keep highlighting this issue and if they continually point it out to lawmakers and someone from ROW gets the birght idea to challenge department of state then it will make it worse for India. I don't foresee any change whatsoever in country quota limits; mainly because it is fundamental to immigration and fundamental things don't change very easily.
In defense of the EB2I argument thought UN, I could argue that the Horizontal spillover was right all along and it was EB3ROW that benefited since 2005 at the expense of EB2I + C.
As you rightly point out, there is room for interpretation in the way the law is written, and that is why we keep having this discussion. I remember vehemently having this discussion with you on immigration.com. The bottom line is I am still waiting having been "current" twice since that time, I believe that there are many Eb3ROW folks with PDs later than mine that have sailed through ahead of me! The interpretation view of spillover over the last year is the only thing that gives me any hope near term.
In the mean time, those like me have dealt with a barrage of other processing changes that have also affected EB2I ie Labor Subs., Eb3-EB2 jumpers, the July VB fiasco impact on older 485s etc. Not sure about the exact extent of each, but nonetheless, you feel screwed by the system when your 485 is pending for near 4 yrs.
This is one harrowing experience everyone wants to forget once they get greened. Thanks for sticking around with your valuable insight.
1) People leaving because of long wait is a losing argument. Available information doesn't back it up. We have had severe retrogression since 2005 (h-1b quota cases have finished in matter of days)
2)USA is destination of choice. 9 million people file through greencard lottery for 50,000 slots and the main populated countries aren't even eligible to file (ie., India, China, Pakistan, Canada, etc.)
3) Call it what it is: Employment base immigration is least impacted. It is the only class of immigrants who are allowed to work/live in USA while they wait for greencard. Just about every other class has to wait outside until their number is called. This is number one impediment to EB grievances.
4) Stating that one is paying taxes, etc., is also losing argument. You are comparing yourself to the people who are here unlawful. Paying taxes isn't some virtue, it is the law.
5) Country quotas is fundamental to US Immigration. Getting rid of it for one class; ie employment base without looking at the whole thing is waste of time (ie., lottery, family base, etc.).
Now I don't want to get people upset but let's look at some things that have happened since 2005:
There was considerable debate on immigration.com of how the country quotas work and spillover of visas. Depending on how you read the law you would keep coming up with different conclusions. One way was to look at it as hard cap of 7% across all 140,000 visas that is 10,000 or so and it didn't matter about eb1,eb2, eb3. Any unused visas from ROW in EB1 would not go to india but rather flow down to eb2 row and then eb3 row. That s unused would go vertical instead of horizontal.
In uscis fiscal year 2004 eb3 went unavailable in summer of 2005. Statistics showed that India went well over their 7% limit.
In USCIS fiscal year 2005 we had severe retrogression for India. Visa bulletin states that spillover will be vertical instead of horizontal. Statistics showed that India only received 10,500 visas
Now, fiscal year 2006 . We have slow movement in visa dates; it appears that they are going vertical with spillover. However, in July 2007 they make it current for everyone and India goes over the 7% limit.
Fiscal year 2007 it appears from visa bulletin that they are going to go horizontal instead of vertical. No statistics yet of how much went to India.
Therefore; department of state has changed policy, interpretation without law change. Talk to many lawyers and they will tell you that spillover is supposed to happen vertical instead of horizontal. indian nationals have been benefitted greatly by department of state changing it on their whim. You don't see many people from ROW on these boards bellyaching about this; or contacting senators, or threatening lawsuits do you?
This is something to think about? As people keep highlighting this issue and if they continually point it out to lawmakers and someone from ROW gets the birght idea to challenge department of state then it will make it worse for India. I don't foresee any change whatsoever in country quota limits; mainly because it is fundamental to immigration and fundamental things don't change very easily.
In defense of the EB2I argument thought UN, I could argue that the Horizontal spillover was right all along and it was EB3ROW that benefited since 2005 at the expense of EB2I + C.
As you rightly point out, there is room for interpretation in the way the law is written, and that is why we keep having this discussion. I remember vehemently having this discussion with you on immigration.com. The bottom line is I am still waiting having been "current" twice since that time, I believe that there are many Eb3ROW folks with PDs later than mine that have sailed through ahead of me! The interpretation view of spillover over the last year is the only thing that gives me any hope near term.
In the mean time, those like me have dealt with a barrage of other processing changes that have also affected EB2I ie Labor Subs., Eb3-EB2 jumpers, the July VB fiasco impact on older 485s etc. Not sure about the exact extent of each, but nonetheless, you feel screwed by the system when your 485 is pending for near 4 yrs.
This is one harrowing experience everyone wants to forget once they get greened. Thanks for sticking around with your valuable insight.
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gk_2000
11-18 01:25 PM
I also suggest partnering up with Reform Immigration For America as they have large numbers of supporters as well. I urge core IV members to contact them as time is short for us
.. confirming that I have sent the faxes for myself and for whole family
.. confirming that I have sent the faxes for myself and for whole family
anilkumar0902
09-14 01:29 AM
Filed I-485 on July 31,2007. Checks cashed on Sep 10th and received Receipt Notices for me and my wife through the attorney yesterday. I am in the EB-2 category with PD: Oct 2005.
However, on both of our I-485 receipt notices, the Category shows up as "Unknown" ...Has anyone else faced any such thing...
Please advice.
However, on both of our I-485 receipt notices, the Category shows up as "Unknown" ...Has anyone else faced any such thing...
Please advice.
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gc4me
08-18 12:45 PM
Are you sure that your application was received on Aug 8th, 2008?
If ture then this is the shortest time I have ever seen for EAD approval.
Lucky you!
May be your Green Card producttion was ordered! Please share your experience.
Hi,
This is for my wife's first time EAD.
Category: EB2, TSC
Priority Date: June 20, 2006
I-485 filing date: July 17th, 2007
Paper based EAD application Received date: Aug 8th, 2008
LUD : Aug 12th, 2008
Card Production Ordered : Aug 16th, 2008
That was pretty quick.
Funny part is, I haven't received receipt notice yet.
If ture then this is the shortest time I have ever seen for EAD approval.
Lucky you!
May be your Green Card producttion was ordered! Please share your experience.
Hi,
This is for my wife's first time EAD.
Category: EB2, TSC
Priority Date: June 20, 2006
I-485 filing date: July 17th, 2007
Paper based EAD application Received date: Aug 8th, 2008
LUD : Aug 12th, 2008
Card Production Ordered : Aug 16th, 2008
That was pretty quick.
Funny part is, I haven't received receipt notice yet.
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HelloGC07
08-07 11:52 AM
Talked with IO today, No information about my application yet!
Got new LUD dated 08/05/07 on already approved I-140
I thought it meant something...I am so disappointed :(
Got new LUD dated 08/05/07 on already approved I-140
I thought it meant something...I am so disappointed :(
brij523
12-10 11:58 AM
Hi other IV users,
Did you read the post I wrote above? I think IV need some member who can do foot work. I think IV will agree with my assessment. What is others assessment? If we want to get something done we have to make some strategic and concentrated move.
Not everything could be written on this site.
If you are interested PM me. We can talk privately.
Did you read the post I wrote above? I think IV need some member who can do foot work. I think IV will agree with my assessment. What is others assessment? If we want to get something done we have to make some strategic and concentrated move.
Not everything could be written on this site.
If you are interested PM me. We can talk privately.
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arunmohan
09-10 01:31 AM
There is nothing change in the next bulletin. What you saw from the last couple of bulletins "Unavailable". That should be happened with in few months. This is my opinion. I am not blaming any body. This is the real situation going on from the last couple of years bulletins.[/QUOTE]
If we just keep watching the visa bulletin every month, there would be no change. We will see November 2001 in next couple of months after that it will become "U" again. We got to do something and we need guidance and direction from IV.
If we just keep watching the visa bulletin every month, there would be no change. We will see November 2001 in next couple of months after that it will become "U" again. We got to do something and we need guidance and direction from IV.
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gc_bulgaria
11-22 11:02 AM
http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2007/11/mehuls-dilemma.html
Dear Mehul,
Greg Siskind has addressed your case on his blog. Good luck and hope things turn out well for you!
Dear Mehul,
Greg Siskind has addressed your case on his blog. Good luck and hope things turn out well for you!
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Gravitation
03-08 07:45 AM
Well, I am TOO depressed about the BEC performance. I know too many people are in same situation but I find myself "helpless" and at least i want to SCREAM......:mad:
Looks like that they are on track to eliminate backlog by Sept 07. You'll get your LC then or probably sooner. Hey, it's March already... time will fly fast...
Looks like that they are on track to eliminate backlog by Sept 07. You'll get your LC then or probably sooner. Hey, it's March already... time will fly fast...
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snathan
02-09 08:39 PM
I am sending $ 20 ...
Please keep sending emails to all members and encourage them to chip in regularly..
Thanks for your contribution. Please pursuade your friends and relatives also
Please keep sending emails to all members and encourage them to chip in regularly..
Thanks for your contribution. Please pursuade your friends and relatives also
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02-10 05:11 PM
I just contributed $20 via paypal.
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anzerraja
07-20 02:38 PM
Zooom Not yet.
Let us urge the core to setup an administrative account or set aside a certain % towards the administrative expenses and then request people to direct funds there.
IMHO people responded to this call as it was for a special purpose. We need to respect that. What do you guys think ?
So whats the verdict..Do we ask all the members to donate towards the core fund..Anzzeraja what do u say...SAM??
Let us urge the core to setup an administrative account or set aside a certain % towards the administrative expenses and then request people to direct funds there.
IMHO people responded to this call as it was for a special purpose. We need to respect that. What do you guys think ?
So whats the verdict..Do we ask all the members to donate towards the core fund..Anzzeraja what do u say...SAM??
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Lisap
09-03 01:28 PM
It is possible that check depositing staff also has there own back log. Once, application and checks are accepted, EAD can be issued, but check depositing staff may be slow in their work.
I hope that is the case. I just checked my account and still the checks have not been cashed..... I will keep you posted if there is any change
I hope that is the case. I just checked my account and still the checks have not been cashed..... I will keep you posted if there is any change
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mhtanim
02-03 09:59 PM
Count me too. I am from NSC to CSC, my case is still in CA only.I don't know what is happening. I have opned 2 SR's also. I am a july 2 nd filer.
You are not the only one. My case is NSC-CSC-NSC and no FP yet.
You are not the only one. My case is NSC-CSC-NSC and no FP yet.
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looivy
09-19 07:57 PM
Instead of predicting and estimating why don't all of us do some calling for HR 5822.
solaris27
08-13 08:24 AM
1) Contacted Senator/Congressman/Governor - No reply or progress
2) Filled 7001 form for Ombudsman - waiting for reply
3) Called USCIS 10 times in last 10 days and come to know that everything is cleared on my and wife applications. - everytime they tell someting diffrenet .
its shows how USCIS work ... as if everything is cleared our 485 should be cleared .
can't take infopass ( no option to check case status) or open SR ( as its not beyond 30 days) .
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2) Filled 7001 form for Ombudsman - waiting for reply
3) Called USCIS 10 times in last 10 days and come to know that everything is cleared on my and wife applications. - everytime they tell someting diffrenet .
its shows how USCIS work ... as if everything is cleared our 485 should be cleared .
can't take infopass ( no option to check case status) or open SR ( as its not beyond 30 days) .
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buddyinsd
08-20 12:18 PM
Ha ha Congrats....
Story of my life. I complain about delay with my application. Someone joins me and tells me they are in the same boat and the very next day that someone leaves the boat and jumps into "greener" pastures. Everyone is leaving the boat and I seem to be left out :(
Who else are in my boat? (Application with an officer for over 2 weeks and still status = "Initial Review")
My wife and I just received the email about card production order. And, ou4 case status has changed on the website to CPO. I wish good luck to all of you. In case it helps, anyone, our details:
Priority date: Feb 26, 2006
I-485 Receipt date: Jul 27, 2007
Steps taken:
SR opened for my petition around July 17th: Response stated that my petition was in the adjudications department, and was for an officer to be assigned.
Status enquiry through the local congresswoman Aug 12th: Same result as my SR.
SR opened for my wife Aug., 10th: No response yet
Infopass appointment on Aug. 16th: Both petitions with an officer since Aug. 12th.
I appreciate the forum and all the support it offers. Donated last month.
Story of my life. I complain about delay with my application. Someone joins me and tells me they are in the same boat and the very next day that someone leaves the boat and jumps into "greener" pastures. Everyone is leaving the boat and I seem to be left out :(
Who else are in my boat? (Application with an officer for over 2 weeks and still status = "Initial Review")
My wife and I just received the email about card production order. And, ou4 case status has changed on the website to CPO. I wish good luck to all of you. In case it helps, anyone, our details:
Priority date: Feb 26, 2006
I-485 Receipt date: Jul 27, 2007
Steps taken:
SR opened for my petition around July 17th: Response stated that my petition was in the adjudications department, and was for an officer to be assigned.
Status enquiry through the local congresswoman Aug 12th: Same result as my SR.
SR opened for my wife Aug., 10th: No response yet
Infopass appointment on Aug. 16th: Both petitions with an officer since Aug. 12th.
I appreciate the forum and all the support it offers. Donated last month.
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